Where is God when it hurts?

by Pastor Norman

Our inner witness of goodness

Romans 8:14-15
Where is God when it hurts? Our inner witness of goodness Romans 8:14-15
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[a] And by him we cry, “Abba,[b] Father.”


Romans 8:16-17
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.


The holy spirit is the inner witness that bears testimony that we're children of God

Holy spirit Illuminate any ungodly beliefs

Suffering is a mark of our Christian walk

John 16:33
“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”


We say if God is good, then there should be no suffering:
# Is because we've taken on the world values of what is good in life but God sees eternity
# Is because of how we see what is good
- Success, comfort and a life free from suffering

2 Corinthians 4:17-18
For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.


Just because we've overcame doesn't mean there is no scars

He is with us, suffering is not His heart for us, while God didn't cause the suffering, bad things do happen. He's transforming us to be more like Christ.

Don't Feel, don't know, don't abide, don't comune with God out of church walls is not God's heart

Only in Wilderness can experience

If Jesus have defeated sin, why do we go through pain and suffering?

We live in a tension call the "already" but "not yet".
- He's working through us to trust him and represent Him
- we live in a gap that our prayer makes a difference

Romans 8:19-22
For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[a] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.


A day will come when all creation will be free. Till then we'll experience all sufferings now on earth

Not everyone experience total and instantaneous healing

Miracles are rare but while waiting is to trust and get to know Him

Life is messy, and is not clear.

God is working through us to trust Him

God fights for us

Romans 8:26
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.


In life there are going to be some things we don't have answer. Do we choose to trust Him or walk away?

Suffering, diseases, problems etc found us but God found me first

You must give up your rights of understanding When you desires His peace